ITT Technical Institute - ITT Tech - Letter to the Dean

Course: ET475 – Electronic Circuit Design I (6/18/2012 – 9/9/2012) Faculty: Jackson, Joshua D I learned nothing from this class. The program Chair Barry Douglass himself stated the materials provided for this course were supplementary"”which meant to be successful in the course, students would need to rely on competent instruction and Google/YouTube. I relied heavily on Google where competent instruction was lacking and the course matieral was trash. Overlooking the time students were misled by Dr. Jackson to believe they could shift attendance around to accommodate the instructor's personal business outside of school"”it is also important to note that we never spent more than 10 minutes on lecture. Sometimes we would spend 5 minutes or less going over the material in class. There were even occasions where we would skip theory entirely to work on lab or projects. There were a handful of sessions out of 12 where we spent almost the entire class on theory"”only the time was spent watching the instructor stumble through the difficult theory work using a privileged formula guide, such that we all walked away more confused than when we had arrived. The instructor clearly understood the magnitude of the problem, and decided to "change format." We did a lot of work in the labs and basically abandoned the ridiculous book and much of the cookie-cutter curriculum for which we were not provided adequate tools (in materials or competent instruction.) It is commendable to have an instructor at least recognize he is setting his students up for failure as he makes adjustments accordingly. However, lack of follow through in that regard is worse than having never taken action in the first place. I did everything asked of me in this course. For that reason, I am confident I went into the final with a substantially high grade. I base that assessment on confidence in lieu of fact, because we were not provided our progress throughout the entire course. I went the entire course not knowing my grade despite my multiple requests to see my progress. The instructor continually put-off grade dissemination until the course was completed, while maintaining none of us "had anything to worry about." In consolation, I believe that to be true going into the final. Coming out, however, I urge you to take a closer look. We were utterly ill-prepared for the final, as it was undoubtedly based on assumptions of competent instruction without deviation from the syllabus. We were led into the desert to thirst to death. Since I'm a grown-up; I wasn't going to take chances and trust"”especially since we had already been misled about our attendance. I made sure to study for nearly triple the time I studied for Dr. Douglass' Digital Communication Systems course. I spent countless hours on the homework in Dr. Jackson's class, and countless hours studying for the final. My intellect has not changed throughout my college career; only the instruction has changed. I have never dedicated that kind of time to achieve the results that came out of this course. This class was a joke"”a waste of my time"”a swindling of my tuition. To increase your placement numbers by hiring employer prospects in exchange for some extra money and limited responsibility"”in being so reckless with our education"”comes at the cost of your reputation. I'll be sure to pass the word onto my vast network within the small Charlotte market.
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ITT Technical Institute - Emily Campbell of ITT Tech lies

I sent a complaint to the Better Business Bureau. My complaint was about ITT Tech and career services and trying to finish my degree program nights only. Emily Campbell of ITT Troy lied in stating, "ITT does not offer night classes only for any degree of study." I was attending night classes at ITT for my degree and would have graduated by taking night only classes. I had to leave ITT due to a job loss, but not I can come back but ITT will not let me finish my degree. I wish I never went to ITT Technical Institute.
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#774498

you can transfer your credits to a different school. I transferred mine to Wayne State University

#527335

What?....Im sorrybut I can not understand you or what the problem is.

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ITT Technical Institute - Itt tech of san diego is a rip off!!!!!!!

I know I am not the perfect student but I work hard in school. I accept when I fail a class when its my fault but when it is the instructors fault no way. I have been trying to change the grade for one of my classes and when they are about to change it they always come up with *** excuses for the grade not to change. It is not my fault that my program changes chairs like a person changes underwear and that they cant keep track of the conversations they have with students and losing a students paper and saying you never got it. This school has been trying to take more money from me just because not enough students are signing up for the programs. All I want is justice and for them to change the grade for that class. they wont even take witnesses to testify that I actually did my work and participated. WTF? THIS SCHOOL SUCKS DONT COME HERE IF I COULD GO BACK IN TIME I WOULD HAVE NEVER NEVER APPLIED HERE.
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#595732

You failed class at ITT? You need to get 95% score out of any class at ITT to be taken seriously.

Take a good look at yourself and work much harder. Good luck with that attitude.

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@PissedConsumer595732

Fla is spinning for the boys from Carmel. Open admissions and high academic standards do not mix.

ITT is not regionally accredited. I see ITT on a resume and it goes in the shredder ASAP.

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#327395 Review #327395 is a subjective opinion of poster.
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ITT Tech LIED about the programs offered saying they were degree programs and credits were transferable but they were not. After finding out this I questioned the school about the schools program. They responded by telling me that I will have to pay and "A Student Loan...
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#786290

http://www.acics.org/students/content.aspx?id=2084

The ability to transfer credits is determined by the RECEIVING SCHOOL - not the school the credits come from.

The Department of Education and CHEA recognize some national accreditors, including ACICS, as well as the regional accrediting agencies. That recognition is the primary authority by which accrediting agencies review, scrutinize and endorse the integrity and quality of educational institutions.

Accepting credits earned at another institution is the prerogative of the receiving institution.

No college, school or accrediting agency can require another institution to accept in transfer credit earned somewhere else. Even when the sending institution is accredited by the same agency as the receiving school, there is no guarantee credits will transfer.

The decision on whether or not to accept your academic credit could be made by the chairperson of the department, a faculty transcript review committee, an individual faculty member, an admissions officer or other college official. Factors that affect the willingness to accept academic credit in transfer may be in the institution’s catalog, and include: •College or state policies. Most colleges and some states have policies concerning the number and type of credits they will accept in transfer from another institution.

•Residency requirements. Most colleges require a student to complete a specific number of credits at their institution in order to be awarded a degree by them. •Appropriateness of course content. The course should align with the college’s degree program.

Some courses may not be relevant to the degree that is sought, regardless of the rigor or content of the course. Also, the content of the course should compare favorably with the materials and topics covered in the college’s degree curriculum. Students seeking to transfer academic credit should be prepared to discuss how their completed coursework covers the topics required in the college curriculum. Evidence would include copies of work completed, or a copy of a syllabus or study guide for the course.

Official transcripts sent from the college of origin to the receiving college also may be required •Appropriate academic level. Acceptance of credit also depends on the transferring student’s academic standing and the level of course material studied. Remedial and developmental courses probably are not generally transferable. Satisfactory grades for the courses completed are also required in most cases.

•Accreditation and educational quality. In the U.S., the two entities that grant authority through recognition to national and regional accrediting agencies are the U.S. Department of Education (USDE) and the Council for Higher Education Accreditation (CHEA). Many traditional colleges and universities in the U.S.

are accredited by a regional accrediting agency. Many college or schools offering applied education programs are accredited by national accrediting agencies, including ACICS. All accrediting agencies recognized by the USDE are deemed to be reliable authorities on institutional quality and integrity. The USDE makes no distinction between national or regional accreditors regarding their reliability in ensuring institutional quality.

This is originally from (if I remember correctly) DETC.org: The fact that regionally accredited colleges refuse to accept credits from another school because it is not regionally accredited flies directly in the face of national policies advocated by American Council on Education (ACE), the American Association of Collegiate Registrars and Admissions Officers (AACRAO), Council for Higher Education Accreditation (CHEA), et al. The real issue here has less to do with the academic quality of the sending institution, and more to do with anti-competitive business practices of the receiving institution.

Competition is heating up in higher education , and there are forces at work to control the inroads being made by “upstart” operators. Congress, the Department of Education , and the Department of Justice have been looking into this anti-competitive practice (MAFI)by higher education , and we suspect we will see significant activity in the coming months on this matter.

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ITT Technical Institute - ITT is the WORSE!

Don't allow those commericals fool you. I currently attend ITT in NC and wished I never would have started in the first place. The teachers are the WORSE. The first year of schooling was teachers who didn't even know the materials. We, as students, had to read the book and learn the programs ourselves because that was what the teacher was doing. When we had problems, so did he. We asked, asked and asked and finally, the dean replaced some teachers. The newer teachers are better, but the same results as the rest. Once you are enrolled into the program, it's like you become a #. You miss to many classes oh well. They don't try to help you at ALL. Evening classes start @ 6pm. If you don't get off till 6pm(me), they don't try to inform you what was missed. I have stood up in front of the dean, her boss and even her boss and told them flat out that ITT is a JOKE! If i wasn't TRAPPED with this no transfer credits BS then I would've left the first semester without looking back. When you go to finanical aid and inform them that you want to leave the school, they do everything they can to keep you. They told me the first time I wanted to leave; because I wasn't being taught the information, that the teacher was learning as we were learning and complaining like we were complaining about teaching the wrong class, they informed me that the credits will begin to transfer to another school 2 terms from now. At this time I listened and accepted the fact that I wanted to be at a school that had evening classes and was flexible. During the third term I go back to my F-aid worker and let her know it's time for me to go ahead and start my transfer to another school. She informed me that the credits will not transfer over as they had wished and to continue with the school. I changed my major as the teachers were leaving and the program, even with current students was closing. Now that I have one more term left before my associates degree will be in my hands at a cost of $44k, Once I'm completed my goal is to educate. I see more and more young black men and women joining ITT and then they stay a term or two then leave. I'm sure they are leaving with $2-5k in debt, but ITT is making BANK and not caring about the students. ITT is owned by a TV or cable company anyway right? Someone/something that has NO dealings with EDUCATION. - TOTAL WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY. People who have graduate could fine jobs that paid $12-14 starting out. Don't get me wrong that is good money, just not good enough to pay back ITT student loans that start collecting interest after 6mos out of school.
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#317872 Review #317872 is a subjective opinion of poster.
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What you have read from earlier posters about ITT Tallahassee is so very true. No one in administration has much in the way of eduction at all. They don't value education at this place. They value getting you to sign a contract that gives them money. The...
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#548102

Just yesterday, some of us graduated from this place. We had sunk a lot of money into going there, and most of us have shared with each other that we didn't want to lose the money already spent (or that we have to pay back) so we went ahead and finished.

Even before graduating, we've learned that the degrees are not going to help us get a job in the fields we had hoped for. It may make some potential employers actually feel sorry for us, or think we are *** for having gone in debt to make these people richer, and failed to give us the education for the money we had paid.

I'm sitting here pretty sick about it, and have talked with my co-graduates over this past week ... a lot of them wish they had just quit and figured out a way to go to TCC.

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ITT Technical Institute - ITT Tech is 100% Ripoff!

I am a former employee at ITT. I left because I couldn't ethically continue to do what management wanted me to do which was lie just to get students in and get signatures on their loan papers. As long as the money keeps flowing in anybody is passed regardless whether they do the work required for the program. No reputable employer even accepts their phony degrees! Their credits do not transfer and they make you take out high interest private loans to cover tuition because government financial aid will not cover all of the costs. Students do not get any financial aid checks back and most often end up so deep in debt that they can never dig themselves out. A Bachelor degree will end up costing you $100,000.00 RUN, don't walk, AWAY from this ripoff school.
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#447393

What is the "c9fa5" at the end of your post mean? I have a feeling its a code whomever you write these reviews for uses to pay you...

#438268

I have been researching this issue for months. Considering the grammar of some of these comments it's no wonder these people have a gripe.

They seem to lack the mental capacity to even attend such a program.

You don't see many positive comments because the people who succeed don't have time for such foolishness. They're at work!

If you apply yourself and have the ability you can accomplish anything. The world needs ditch diggers too!

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#279290 Review #279290 is a subjective opinion of poster.
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The school gave out false information and lied to students in nursing program. They failed to uphold their end of our contract, providing no education in exchange for money. While I was in the school the Arizona State Board of Nursing visited to perform an...
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Bottom Line: They do not care. They don't.

If you are dying in ICU, they will still harass you to register!! If you don't register, you may not get to be in the program!!I was in Breckinridge school of nursing in Omaha, Nebraska and the AP teacher gave an A to a girl who brought in an anatomy coloring book. Someone with such arrogance (she was unable to answer simple AP questions) and lack of ethics should not even be teaching at all. Oh, did i mention she monitored how long I was in the bathroom!!

I'd suggest she teach Jr.High (since that is what this place really is) but I shudder to think how many kids would be scarred. I was bullied, harassed, and the dean had the nerve to scream (i know the rest of the office heard) and blame ME. Like I didn't have enough in my life to deal with.

I do not know how this place can have any accreditation at all given the complete lack of ethics. If you want to experience the disgusting, heartless, truly sick side of humanity enroll at Breckinridge School of Nursing!

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#276195 Review #276195 is a subjective opinion of poster.
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I was a student at itt-tech. I wanted to get my degree in Construction Management. They told me I had to take two years of AUTO-CADD, so I did. the last semester they told me they cancelled the program, no reason, just do it on-line now or nothing.I'm not doing it...
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ITT Technical Institute - ITT and thier consistant Incompetancy

Back in 2008 i was fresh out of high school with typical vocational colleges e-mailing me left and right. One just so happened to be ITT. Since they were a recognizable name i decided to check out their curriculum. Of course they made the school sound great and had technical diagrams posted on every wall for CDD. My student rep told me my credits would transfer to any college in the area, such as miami hamilton or nku. She showed me the graphs of the difference between "educated and uneducated people" would earn as a salary. Financial aid went though great. i was in... Hook, line and sinker is how i feel about it now Two weeks into my first quarter i learn that my student rep has resigned. how strange. I was eighteen so i didn't think much of it. I got through my first full year without many issues, considering i had taken classes on the programs in high school. starting new programs were quite a different task. more difficult due to unanswered questions. not only i but several people in my class fell behind during the introduction to autodesk revit. maybe some are framiliar. when the teacher would move from subject to subject quickly. some of us would have a question. and since the (i wont say teacher because she was reading from the book) she would not have the answer and would become extremely frustrated with the students and tell us "well i can't slow down the entire class for just one student" even though it was 60 percent of a 23 person class not understanding. So as the class fell behind, so would our MAJOR PROJECT that was required from our INTRODUCTORY class and was graded by the head of our department, who did not see the work fit to move to the next class, ignoring complaints about the "teacher's" methods. F. who could've guessed i returned to the class, with the same "teacher" the following semester. who for some reason. only showed up every other week. some weeks there would be a substitute book reader and some weeks there would be none. those seemed to be the weeks i had gotten the most done. still with inconsistant teaching. another F because the major project requirements had become more steep. my gpa had unexpectedly dropped quite dramaticly due to these incedents and the composition teacher who care for anyone who didn't come from a wealthy background. it wasn't that she was a racist. just that noone was able to meet her standards of living. and that is also how she grade my finacial aid was cut off due to my gpa and the head of my department told me to get a personal loan to pay for one class 1,976 dollars and if i were to recieve a 79% or better. it would raise my gpa. i took out the loan and returned to school to find out that he'd been fired for misconduct and lacking neccessary degree's to be in his position. my finacial rep had resigned and when i had passed with an 89%. my gpa was .01 too low to pick up my financial aid. so many details left out
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#259263 Review #259263 is a subjective opinion of poster.
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ITT-tech columbia SC campus maybe the worst campus of all the itt-tech schools.I cant imagaine any institution worst than Itt-tech Columbia.Here is why the software is outdated the instructors simply do not know the material. The instructors that they hire are not...
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#354386

anyone that goes to itt tech deserves to be scammed. BUYER BEWARE do your research if you type itt tech into google once!

you will know not to go.

plus any person that pays 40k fo a degree from there deserves to not have that 40k lol go to a real school do your research. im sick of hearing how bad they are and *boohoo i got scamed well no *** you did* i mean come one people DONT BE SO DUMB

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#257962 Review #257962 is a subjective opinion of poster.
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ITT Tech is a complete send off, they promise to find your jobs when you graduate, and I graduated in Septemeber and still have not find work in my field which is Information Technology. The career service department sends you on jobs that you are not qualified for,...
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#354377

anyone that goes to itt tech deserves to be scammed. BUYER BEWARE do your research if you type itt tech into google once!

you will know not to go. plus any person that pays 40k fo a degree from there deserves to not have that 40k lol go to a real school

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ITT Technical Institute - ITT FAILS STUDENTS TO ACHIEVE LARGE SECTION SIZES

Students Involved: C. Carter, P. McKay, and G. Turner ITT Employees Involved: Dennis Artis, Registrar, Renee S. Hall, Associate Dean, and William Wells, Director Problem: The Registrar and Associate Dean (approved by the Director) put these students online without prior notification and these students felt that they had to try the course because they were in their last quarter. They feel they were not advised properly. These students were placed in online courses during week 1 (no advising performed) and given no opportunity to test out. They sat in class waiting for the instructor but was told by a Finance person that the class was moved to online. The Registrar or Associate Dean did not communicate anything to them. These students were in their last quarter at ITT - graduating. These students were tutored by the Associate Dean who is not qualified to tutor Economics. She teaches English. She did not know the topics necessary to help them successfully complete the course. She did not know how to solve the problems or explain how to solve them. The tutor hired was not present on the days they came to school. Now, these students have failed the course and not able to graduate. ITT has failed these students. With the Gainful Employment changes coming, these students will be placed in a horrible position. He is the information by the Dept. of Education: FROM THE GAINFUL EMPLOYMENT INFORMATION: Retaking Coursework: Currently students who repeat coursework cannot have the course they repeat count towards the calculation of a full-time course load. As proposed, this rule would expand the definition of full-time student by allowing such courses to count if the student is in a program that registers by the term or semester. THESE STUDENTS HAVE PAID TOO MUCH MONEY FOR A DEGREE THEY CANNOT USE... THESE STUDENTS ARE NOW VERY UPSET THAT THEIR GRADUATION IS DELAYED BECAUSE OF WRONGFUL ACTIONS OF ITT
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#334335

I totally agree with you. I was also a past full time employee that would like to say that the ITT in Sylmar, CA is a joke.

The staff is not friendly at all, nor are helping. You will learn nothing nor get a job when you graduate. Most of the teachers there can not even speak english.

It cost $48K for 2 years and $98K for a 4 year degree. This is a rip off big time.

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ITT Technical Institute - ITT-TECH WORST SCHOOL EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HIS SCHOOL IS A RIP OFF.THE FINANCIAL AID STAFF ARE NOT QUALIFIED TO HANDLE YOUR TUITION LOANS, ETC. THEY ARE ***. I REGRET GOING TO THIS SCHOOL. THIS IS THE WORST SCHOOL I EVER ATTENDED. THE TEACHERS DROP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE QUARTERS. THE TEACHERS ARE NOT QUALIFIED TO TEACH CERTAIN COURSES!!!!!!!!!!! THEY JUST READ FROM THE BOOK OR POWER POINT. I ENTERED THE HIT PROGRAM AT THE LAKE MARY CAMPUS AND IT WAS A JOKE. THE BEST THING I DID WAS DROP OUT OF THIS *** SCHOOL. CAREER SERVICES IS A JOKE. THEY HELP FIND STUDENTS JOBS BY SENDING YOU EMAILS! DONT WASTE YOUR TIME. IT IS TOO EXPENSIVE!!! *** *** SCHOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#334338

I totally agree with you. I was also a past full time employee that would like to say that the ITT in Sylmar, CA is a joke.

The staff is not friendly at all, nor are helping. You will learn nothing nor get a job when you graduate. Most of the teachers there can not even speak english.

It cost $48K for 2 years and $98K for a 4 year degree. This is a rip off big time.

#292497

But the commercials make ITT so great

#287527

I have been at ITT for the past year and I have learned absolutely nothing. I thought that I would get a quality education but ITT in no way delivered.

Thankfully I got out before I was drowning in debt.

The community college that I just started at said that after I take 15 hours(5 courses)and depending on my gpa after completing the 15 hours, they will look at my transcript from ITT and decide on what credits they will accept. That is better than nothing.

#279251

i was wondering the same thing because im going to itt and they took my student loans and now i dont get anything back

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When I first spoke with the reps at ITT they informed me that it wasn't difficult to drop if you absolutely had to, which it wasn't at all. They get a ton of money out of you if you complete your program or if you drop. Think before you ever sign any...
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